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HORSEPOWER vs DYNO TESTING

Have you ever wondered why "The Shop" across town makes more power than anyone and has bragging rights at the local hangouts, but can't seem to beat you're customers bikes? 

Lack of talent? Maybe. But, perhaps the answers are in the details of how consistent his dyno is when testing (think consistency!) and how well they prepare for each test,  (i.e., Who checks for fuel specific gravity anymore? And why don't they?).

It makes no difference if it's an engine dyno (where it's easier to control the details or a chassis dyno (where it's easier to test the engine but the details are much much harder to control, if not impossible).

Basically, it boils down to paying attention to details and reducing variables. Here are five downfalls of most motorcycle shop dyno's when striving for consistent, accurate dyno results. 

1. Comparing Different Testing Locations

If you like fiction, you'll like this adage, " It makes no difference where I test my motorcycle, the air density correction factors will make my engine numbers comparable no matter where the testing took place."

Look closely at all of the various accepted air density correction formulas. I can count four that we work with on a daily basis (DIN 70020, EEC 80/1269, ISO 1585, SAE J1349), and who's to say which one was used and with which brand of dyno?

They all state if a variance is greater than 3 percent of what you're trying to correct to, it is suspect. So, say you want to correct to SAE J13490150–atmospheric conditions to air temperature of 87 degrees, 29.235 inches-Hg (990mb) actual pressure and 0-percent relative humidity, you're testing in Sturgis and you want to compare results with a test done in Daytona. The only prize you win is being close to 87 degrees. The rest of the corrected numbers are as far off scale as Daytona is from Sturgis.

On the other hand, if you're in Sturgis and you want to compare power and torque numbers on your dyno on a day-to-day basis, then your testing is probably valid because it's unusual for there to be a significant atmospheric variance between the tests day to day. In this case, it works. 

2. Fluctuating CO Levels 

It's important to control what your engine is breathing during testing.

It takes about 10 parts-per-million (ppm) of carbon monoxide (CO) to give you a headache and a lightheaded feeling. At about 6 ppm, your engine also feels the difference. I've lost count of how many times I've witnessed a dyno session where CO continued to build up in the engine test cell from small exhaust leaks or crossover with discharged exhaust being sucked out of the exhaust duct and being drawn in the intake duct. Everyone wonders, "Why doesn't the engine repeat? Why is it down on power? What is happening here?"

Clean air is paramount, so in order to get accurate and repeatable results testing must be done in a test cell that exchanges the air every second and also have neutral cell pressure ( no vacuum or pressure).  Testing your motorcycle in a open shop area is not going to give accurate results, your just wasting your time and money.

At the other extreme, most shops that strive for the most accurate results will have spent ten's of thousands of dollars on their test cell's in controlling the air their engines breath. They demand consistency.  Without consistency all test results are inaccurate and useless. 

3. Inconsistent Engine Temperatures 

Always control the engine temperatures. The secret to obtaining repeatable results is beginning each and every "pull" at the same engine oil temp.

Oil temperatures can heavily influence how well an engine repeats. We use a window of 2 degrees. If the engine's oil temperature is outside the 2-degree tolerance, the test doesn't begin.

Obviously, in these cases, we may be looking for a gain as small as 0.25 hp, but we will actually find that difference and know it's real–and not attributable to a difference in oil temp from one test to the next.

We all know how much money can go into engine development and testing and it is very time consuming and costly chasing "temperature ghosts," so why should you want to waste time and money on testing when the facility is unable to monitor your oil temperature and start their test at exactly the same temperature every time.

Also, have you ever looked at the temperature of your fuel when testing?  It can and will make a huge difference.  

4. Differing Acceleration Rates 

What kind of a test is being run on the dyno? Is it a controlled rate of acceleration test or a step test or just an inertia test ( inertia test is what most shops use on chassis dyno's)?

It really doesn't matter if you're testing with an engine dyno or a chassis dyno. The point is that you can't compare a test run at one rate of acceleration with another one at a different rate.

It seems obvious, but many times people will compare one test with a controlled acceleration rate of 200 rpm/sec  and another test done at 500 rpm/sec (or, in the case of the chassis dyno an uncontrolled inertia-only test).

In the end, you come up with two totally different sets of torque/hp numbers/graphs. Why? Because it requires power to accelerate mass. Engines have rotating mass. Chassis dyno's have engine rotating mass and driveshaft mass and wheel and tire mass. Accelerating that mass requires power. So, you always see less power to the flywheel or the chassis rolls when you have higher rates of acceleration. If you want to see your highest power numbers, just do a steady state test or step test and log data at each step (the best test is a steady state test allowing 5-10 seconds to stabilize and then sample for 5 seconds at each rpm that you test at, we like to test at 250 rpm increments to assure fuel curve and ignition timing accuracy).

In this step, the engine doesn't have to accelerate from one rpm to another and the power numbers for a given rpm will be higher than when a test is done using a high rate of acceleration ( 500 rpm increments) at the same given rpm point. 

5. Using Unverified Weights 

Finally, be sure to calibrate the load cell with a set of verified weights.

Oftentimes, dyno operators can't remember the last time they calibrated the dyno. In most instances, chassis dyno's can not be calibrated and this is why there are so many inaccurate results and inconsistencies when you have your motorcycle tested.

Like I said, the answer to success is in the details.

Make sure that when you have your motorcycle tested that the facility that is doing the testing is able to meet all the requirements that we have discussed.  If they can't then the test results are false and inaccurate.

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Didja know?    That Hot-Shot Motorworks is in the process of releasing their " NEW " (Patent Pending)  Flat Slide Variable Venturi Throttle Body (V-VTB) for the Fuel Injected engines.  The V-VTB is designed to give the owners of 95" and larger engines the best of both worlds.  The way that the venturi is designed in the V-VTB, it will allow you to have a mild mannered engine at 10% - 40% Throttle Position which will give you very good riding characteristics and fuel economy at cruising r.p.m.'s  and when the throttle is opened past 50% Throttle Position it increases in size to accommodate the large fire breathing engine combinations.  This also allows tunability of big inch engine at lower engine r.p.m.'s which has always been a huge problem.  The V-VTB is very emissions friendly. 

In the past when you have a large cubic inch engine, it would be very difficult to tune at a low r.p.m.'s because you always needed to run a large (51mm or larger) throttle body to allow enough air to flow into the engine at high r.p.m.'s.  With the V-VTB, the throttle body starts the opening with a (example) 48mm venturi and increases to 52mm venturi at wide open throttle.  We have also incorporated a flat slide design air controller so there is no obstructions in the venturi at wide open throttle position.  This has increases air speed and velocity to create more torque and virtually eliminated any turbulence in the manifold/port, which increases cylinder fill.

The V-VTB will be available in various sizes to accommodate your engine combination.  Call For Details !!!  Dealer and Manufacture inquiries welcome.

 

Didja know?  That Hot-Shot Motorworks has developed special modifications on the Twin Cam cam plate that will increase your oil pressure and volume.  Through extensive development of the H-D Twin Cam Engine, Hot-Shot has found that certain modifications to your existing cam plate will actually increase the oil pressure and increase the oil volume.  Hot Shot has seen increases of 9-14 lbs. of oil pressure at 175 deg. of temperature.  With these modifications your engine will realize additional oil for cooling and lubrication without the cost of very expensive oil pumps.  Call for INFO.

 

Didja know? That Hot-Shot Motorworks has the capabilities to rebuild and balance your Twin Cam Crankshaft.  Hot-Shot has all of the special fixture and equipment and parts to rebuild your T/C crankshaft.  Hot-Shot can also rebalance your crankshaft for the big bore engines.  Hot-Shot has found that when you increase your bore size to a size larger than 95" that the crankshaft requires rebalancing (most engine builders will not tell you this because they do not have the tooling to rebalance the crankshaft) to guarantee that you have a smooth operating engine.  Hot-Shot can also rebalance and convert your "B" engine into an "A" style engine so you can rev your engine to a higher R.P.M.  After about a year of riding with the "B" engine you realize that your want more power and r.p.m.'s from your engine but the dealership tells you that you can't rev the engine any higher than 5,800 r.p.m.'s. because of the balancers and the balancer chain.  Now you can have what everybody else has by removing your balancers and chain and rebalance the crankshaft to the proper balance factor.  Call for INFO.

 

Didja know?  That Hot-Shot Motorworks has developed piston oil squirter for your XL engine.  The squirter have been designed by Hot-Shot Motorworks to allow oil to be sprayed onto your piston to help cool the internal engine components.  They will eliminate piston scuffing which has been an ongoing problem in these engines for years.  By installing the "Cool Shots" into an engine it will reduce the core cylinder temperature from 440 deg. down to 240 deg.  These will not only reduce the engine damaged cause by internal friction, but will also increase the reliability of your engine by not having the engine oil deteriorate as quickly.

The "Cool-Shot" piston oil squirters are available for model years 1991-1999 and 2000 to current.  The "Cool-Shots" are sold as a set (F&R) and have complete instructions.  Installation services available.  Call for Details !!!

Didja know?     That Hot-Shot Motorworks has available the Baker F6F
transmission repair kit to eliminate the "OBNOXIOUS"  transmission noises in the "NEW" 6 speed Harley-Davidson Transmissions.  
This kit will be a fast mover so get your order in quickly.


Loud fifth gear is a very common complaint with stock Factory Six-Speeds. So BAKER DRIVETRAIN has stepped forward with an upgrade that will surely make your stock transmission sound so quiet that you’ll think BAKER built the whole dang thing! Our kit features helical cut diamond ground gears, wider bearings, a 1/8” thick bearing retainer plate, and a billet aluminum bearing door. All this combines to give you the advantage of a quieter 5th gear, and no clutch lever walking. 

Additional features that the F6F offer are:

     ·          No 5th gear whine
     ·          Reduces drivetrain lash in 5th gear
     ·          12 pt. ARP  fasteners
     ·          Billet aluminum bearing door     
     ·          Quiet diamond ground gears
     ·          Heavy duty bearings
     ·          No wimpy snap rings
     ·          Direct bolt in assembly
     ·          Recal box – INCLUDED!

Available for the 2006 Dyna, and all 2007 H-D models (excluding Sportster and V-Rod) with the 6 speed transmission.

All that wrapped up with BAKER’s dependable and unbeatable 2 year warranty; and just in time, too!

               

 


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